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aldersprig ([personal profile] aldersprig) wrote in [community profile] noviceconlangers2011-12-06 12:26 pm
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Alphabetical order! Also, numbers

Repeated from twitter: Arguments against having the 7 basic numbers rhyme with each other? I.e. bahp dahp gahp kahp...


Which brings me to - does anyone know how alphabetical order in other alphabets is determined?
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[personal profile] clare_dragonfly 2011-12-06 05:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Argument: it might be hard to hear the difference, especially with very similar sounds--like, in your example, gahp and kahp, because g and k are the same, except that one is voiced and the other unvoiced. It could be inconvenient to hear three when they said four and vice versa.

As for alphabetical order, I don't know, but in natural languages, it's probably more linguistic evolution than anything else.
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[personal profile] clare_dragonfly 2011-12-06 06:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, yes you can!

I like the second idea. That sounds more like a real language to me. I mean: ichi, ni, san, shi, all sound somewhat similar; un, dau, tri, sound somewhat similar (bearing in mind that a Welsh u sounds exactly like its i). (Pedwar doesn't sound like anything else at all. Oh, Welsh.)

For Talani, I have: ma, me, mi, mo, mu, la, le, li, lo, sa. Possibly not very natural ;)