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anke ([personal profile] anke) wrote in [community profile] noviceconlangers2011-11-26 05:27 pm

Looking for gender/noun class info

Does anybody here know a good website with info how different noun classes can manifest in a language?

I mean, there's as one possibility different suffixes for nouns.
And/or different articles ("the" and "a" having one translation per noun class)
Noun-adjective agreement.
Noun-verb agreement.
Different pronouns, including demonstrative pronouns.

And I don't know what I'm missing.

I don't know, I guess I'm kinda looking for a collection of examples.
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[personal profile] inventrix 2011-11-27 01:02 am (UTC)(link)
I don't have an actual list of examples, but! For the purpose of the exercise (i.e. where else would inflected nouns manifest grammatical effects), I would say, really, anything that has a connection to the noun. Which depends enormously on how your language is structured.

I generally think of words as having four potential functions. One, generally considered verbs, represent changes in things (or lack of changes). Two, generally considered nouns, represent the things being affected. Three, generally considered adjectives or adverbs, are modifiers. And four are purely grammatical, like prepositions.

So, essentially, anything that the nouns could affect, grammatically, are anything that is directly grammatically related to the noun in the sentence, which are generally anything in groups one, three or four. Verbs happening to the nouns, modifiers modifying the nouns, prepositions et al. indicating the grammatical function of the nouns.

In short, the only thing I know of that can't be modified grammatically by a noun's gender/class is another noun.
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[personal profile] aldersprig 2011-11-27 01:12 am (UTC)(link)
In short, the only thing I know of that can't be modified grammatically by a noun's gender/class is another noun.

...Hrmm. But wouldn't it be neat (and complicated) if it could?

The girl's shoes? The mountain's rocks.

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[personal profile] becka_sutton 2011-11-27 02:10 am (UTC)(link)
I believe the bantu languages - with their shedloads of genders - tend to show them with prefixes. *Checks wiki on Swahili* Yup prefixes. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swahili_language#Noun_classes.